

Why isn't this (the subreddit I'm looking for) colonised to be the domain of creative, witty writers. So I found THIS subreddit, r/StoryWriting and where's everybody? Where's the coffee drinking, late-night sleepers that have stories to be told. It's like talking about love instead of going out to find it, or praising a psychedelic drug without illegally purchasing it. I found r/writing but it wasn't about writing work, it's just the context of writing.

I searched Reddit for a subreddit where I can write and get comments and criticize other work and help out people. Reddit, the internet, the world, apparently isn't convenient when it comes to people who want to projectile their surge of creativity that really is usually under-appreciated. I have no place to share the stories and screenplays I do. And to be read as a pair, The Writer’s Journey by Christopher Vogler AND 45 Master Characters by Victoria Lynn Schmidt, particularly part 3 which deals with the subject where Vogler’s book is weakest.For the most part of my adolescence, I've been searching of areas on the internet where I can contribute my work to writing. Story Engineering by Larry Brooks (great bedrock basic). Having said all that, the four books I recommend for structure are: The Story Grid by Shawn Coyne (great for your particular needs, it’s great for descriptive analysis). You just can’t rely on a story following an established structure. So that’s probably what you’re up against. People who want to write literary fiction I have to have an argument with to convince them they should even bother to think about structure. In my teaching experience: People who want to write genre fiction are fascinated by structure UNTIL it causes them an issue with the story they would rather tell. Genre fiction emphasizes form more than literary fiction does and will sometimes get to the level you see in visual media but there’s no guarantee of it. There’s significantly more reliance on storytelling instinct rather than form. You’ll have significantly better luck matching a pre-established structure with Genre Fiction but even there you’ll notice that things are much looser than in visual media. Instead, to match it, you’ll have to go through the book and derive and describe the structure from what is actually there. The author probably never thought terribly much about structure so you’re probably not going to be able to match it to any premade form. So they may not actually be very useful to you.įor literary fiction, your best bet is to think of structure descriptively rather than proscriptively. The blurb on the back was probably done last by the author from memory as a pure selling item instead of being meant to be reflective of the structure. They’re more or less in the right place, very few people try to get it on the correct manuscript page.Īnd the elements you start with in visual media are frequently done last for novels. In literary novels you really want to think of structure rules as approximates. Novels, especially literary fiction novels, are significantly more forgiving in their structure than plays, tv, and movies. So now I'm struggling to figure out what are the inciting incidents and debates for these books.Īre there other novel story structure formats that would align with an inciting incident-like event happening that far into a book? Or am I just misclassifying these blurb events as inciting incidents? Also any advice for a writer changing mediums is super appreciated? For Rodham it is an alternate history exploring what if Hillary left Bill early on in their relationship.īut both of these blurb events do not happen until 33% into their books. For Necessary People the blurb describes a frenemy weaseling their way into the protagonist's workplace, upsetting the balance of things and stealing credit. Both of their blurbs reference events that seem to me to be inciting incidents or the break into act two. However, I'm having trouble deciphering their structure. To prepare for this I figured I'd study the structure of two novels I am taking inspiration from: Necessary People and Rodham.

I recently decided I wanted to get into novel writing and figured I could continue using the save the cat template for novel structure.
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I'm a writer who has more experience in studying playwriting and tv writing.
